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1984 Hobie Cat 18' 'Bandit'

Listed
Expired
$7,500 USD

Seller's Description

Hobie Alter Jr’s 1984 18’ ‘Bandit’ is for sale! Background story - as I was told by the seller; Alex Martinez, this pristine 1984 Hobie Cat 18’ was built at the Oceanside facility specifically for Hobie Jr to sail in the upcoming 1984 Olympics in Long Beach, California. Keeping tight to the One Design rules; the boat has a certified weight of 397 lbs. (Serial #: CCMH8703M84H).The ’84 Olympic committee determined to not use the growing Hobie Class catamarans and continue with the British Tornado. With that change Hobie Jr. traded his new boat for a Tornado owned by Alex Martinez of Orange County. Alex raced the boat at several Hobie Division2 regattas, where I met him in 1987 and purchased the boat. In 1979 my son and I got hooked on catamaran sailing in Hawaii; hanging on a front tramp bridal wire blasting through 10’ swells off shore of Diamond Head. When we returned to Southern California, I bought our first Hobie 18’ at Windy Sales in Monrovia, Southern California, and participated in HCA Division 2 with Fleets 3, 4, 7 and 30. I was Commodore of 7 and later Division 2 Chair. I love Hobie racing!But, I could not win my way out of B Fleet . . . In 1988 at a large Division 2 regatta in Long Beach, we brought in an A frame and scales to certify all boats. That’s when I learned my Hobie 18’ weight was 470 lbs. (70 over minimum!) Shortly after, I learned Alex was selling Hobie Jr’s boat – I bought it. Our next regatta was at Lake Powell. By the end of the weekend we had won B fleet (we took 1st place), and moved up to A Fleet where so many of my friends were – back to very competitive racing :~)The next race; my first in A Fleet was at Todos Santos, south of Ensenada, Baja, Mexico. My crew and I weighed in at 285 lbs, on the first race in A Fleet with a stiff breeze we charged the starting line, pulled in the sheets and I literally flew off the starboard stern! Amazing the amount of drag that extra 70 lbs created! We came in 5th in a field of a dozen or so boats – I think the best we ever did in A fleet was to come in 3rd. We had several great years sailing this fast boat against great sailors!Due to a life change of course I moved from San Diego to Spokane, Washington in 1995. Most lake sailing in eastern Washington is poor; many lakes are lower that surrounding agricultural areas, which causes prevailing winds to ‘tumble’ down to the water and explode into many directions. The Coeur d’Alene in Idaho is one such example. So, after a few weekend attempts at ‘day sailing’ the boat wound up in my barn and has remained under canvas and out of the sun for most of its life.Here are images of this cat!IMAGES are hosted at PinterestHulls and Rigging: https://pin.it/6v7F9i9 Cat Hauler Trailer: https://pin.it/4OKVp54 Hulls and Rigging: https://pin.it/6v7F9i9 Boat Hardware: https://pin.it/2TwfxKQ Sailing Gear: https://pin.it/2TwfxKQ Tools and Parts: https://pin.it/2TwfxKQSome of this cats’ features:Jib Control: • Little Sister Clips: quick on/off halyard extension system • Harken Block and Cam-Cleat • 3” self-holding Oxen Blocks (by Kisme) https://www.murrays.com/product/05-0762/) – are the mainstay. Imagine not needing to “pop” a cam cleat when that big puff hits the jib! Oxen blocks work like venetian blinds; a light pull uncleats and you are in total control. (05-0430) • Extended Clew Leads with Harken pulley assembly on Jib. • Jib furling line with • Harken cam cleat on cross beam for Jib furling line. • Also included are Harken blocks and cam cleats.Main Sail: Two complete sets of Hobie sails – both cut by Skip Elliott, (Elliott-Pattison) Newport Beach. • Blue main (full) cut for light air, White main (flat) cut for heavy air. Both sails have same sail numbers (allows for sail changing during Division 2 regatta). • Both main sails have smaller bolt rope to ease raising and lowering the sail as well as adjusting the downhaul. • In 2008 both sets were resewn by Elliott (all seams) and a zipper replacement for one of the jibs. • Battens shaped for each wind condition • Sail Bags for each set – separate Sail Tube storage on trailer. • I found another Hobie 18’ Main and Jim (White) folded in a box – along with a sail bag - they go with the sale.Harken Blocks. (https://www.murrays.com/product/28-61/) • As most cat skippers know – Harken is the name of choice. This cat comes with 3 Harken Main Sheet Systems: o 1st - Harkens very-low-profile 7 to 1 system – notice the SS Wire Pigtail. o 2nd - Harkens standard 3” 7 to 1 system. o 3rd - Harkens 5 to 1 very low-profile system. • Tapered Mainsheet (NOT for IHCA regattas) goes from ¼” to ½” at both ends. This provides for less line volume inside the blocks and less weight in the traveler line (easier traveler movement includes 2 round internal rollers). Example: (https://www.murrays.com/product/opti-tapered-mainsheet-blue-silver/) • Harken Traveler Tamer II (Traveler Swivel with Harkin Roller Fairlead and Harken #150 Cam-Matic cleat) o The Hobie Traveler Car set up with both roller wheels for quick and smooth gliding. • 3 Additional Main Sheets in great condition; 1 Red, 1 Blue, and Orange (Lightweight) Legal downhaul modification includes Harken 2 to 1 purchase – with Harken Cam Cleats. Adjusting the downhaul is an amazing fine tuning tool. A good crew can feel the difference getting the wind tails to fly correctly using the downhaul; wither up wind or downwind – really makes a subtle difference.Boat Assembly • Cross members set in epoxy • The Hulls are Dry Lightweight Hobie ‘EPO Black’ rudders (with rudder travel bags [Randy Smyth Sailmaker] and complete assembly trailer bag). Lightweight telescoping tiller extensions with cork ball ends. • 1 - 9’ • 1 - 7.6” Harken EZ-Up Trapeze set up • Skipper and Crew color coded trap line matches sheet colors (Black and Red) Dagger Board wells: • Forward and stern (upper and lower) Dagger well carpet to prevent chattering (and chipping) • Forward Hobie rubber Dagger Board bumper (prevents board slipping down) • Heavy padded Dagger Board storage bag (2 slots in 1 bag) Extras • Cat Trax with Round hull cradles (https://www.murrays.com/product/13-1402/) • Neoprene Side Rails – provides traction and protection • Righting system (line and water bag) (https://www.murrays.com/category/murrays-righting-systems/) ($200) • 2 - Telescoping paddles (https://www.murrays.com/product/01-1303/ o These were officially certified (with sticker) to weigh 3 lbs to make boat meet weight requirements. • 2 - 6” Cat Bags (Hull storage) (https://www.murrays.com/product/01-4212/) • Harken Mainsheet Blocks o 3” Low Profile Triple Block (28-0049SP) o 3” Quad Block (28-0069)Trailer – (Brand - Cat Hauler) • Round forward hull cradles • Large ¼” x 1-1/4”x 6” forward steel channel (under forward hull cross beam – we used to double stack a Hobie 14 for my son to race). • 8” x 10” 12 ply tires (NEW) + same size spare • ‘Bearing Buddy’ self-greasing wheel bearing protection, with dust caps. • 4 - NEW Rachet Clamps • 2 – 6” 1-Ton Swivel Skid Wheels – on rear crossbar of trailer to prevent dragging damage. • Water Resistant Trailer Lighting with mast support mounted water-resistant connecter plug housing. • 12” x 20”x 12’ “Marlin” Storage compartment (Can’t find these anymore!) o This cat box has  a rear door to load long items (for Rudder assembly, Boom, Tiller Extensions, Extra Battens, etc.),  and a separate front top door on the front of the box (Main Blocks and sheets, Paddles, Dagger Board Bag, Tool box, etc.) • Mast Caddie for Catamaran – both bow and stern – Positive trailing support for H18 mast. (13-2941 13-2931) o Easily access your tool box and smaller items without moving the boat or trying to get the cat box lid off with the boat on the trailer. • 12” diameter x 10’ Sail Tube – separate storage for two sets of sails. • Built in mounts for Cat Trax beach wheels • Adjustable Mast Support system accommodates both automobiles and motor home height requirements.Also Included: Cool Cat soft sided cooler – (soft sides holds 2 6-pak and ice) 37-0001BL Sailing Life Jackets • 2 Omega Grand Prix adult sailing vests • 2 Omega Grand Prix youth sailing vests (Nylon zipper – no clamps) 1 Large 2-piece Colorado Kayak Dry Suit • 2-piece fleece liner for dry suit • https://coloradokayak.com/collections/mens-dry-suits 2 Trapeze Harness with wide bar – • 1 similar to Full Rooster Harness with Spreader Bar (https://www.murrays.com/product/rooster-knappy-harness/) • 1 similar to Murrays Race Half Harness with Spreader Bar (https://www.murrays.com/product/murrays-race-half-harness-with-spreader-bar/)OPTIONAL: Fambean #1823 Tool Box (Heavy Nylon, no-rust) Repair most anything on your boat: • Hog Ring Pliers (https://www.murrays.com/product/33-0010/) o Variety Stainless Steel Hog Rings • Cable Cutters • Swage-It Kit Tool (https://www.murrays.com/product/33-0012/) o Variety of Swage Fittings • Trojan Heavy Duty Hydraulic Rivet Gun (Can’t find this tool anywhere) o Stainless Steel rivets • Jewelers saw • Metal Files • Ratchet Socket Set • Lots of Parts: o Rudder Pins o Drain Plugs o Long, Medium and Small replacement battons o Batton caps o Batton line o Extra Pulleys o Rigging Tape (https://www.murrays.com/product/10-3460/) o Small parts, D Rings, Shackles, Cotter pins, etc.

Specs

Designer
Hobie Alter
Builder
Hobie Cat
Associations
?
# Built
?
Hull
Catamaran
Keel
Twin Daggerboard
Rudder
?
Construction
FG

Dimensions

Length Overall
18 0 / 5.5 m
Waterline Length
?
Beam
8 0 / 2.4 m
Draft
0 7 / 0.2 m 2 5 / 0.8 m
Displacement
400 lb / 181 kg
Ballast
?

Rig and Sails

Type
Sloop
Reported Sail Area
240′² / 22.3 m²
Total Sail Area
?
Mainsail
Sail Area
?
P
?
E
?
Air Draft
27 11 / 8.5 m
Foresail
Sail Area
?
I
?
J
?
Forestay Length
?

Auxilary Power

Make
?
Model
?
HP
?
Fuel Type
?
Fuel Capacity
?
Engine Hours
?

Accomodations

Water Capacity
?
Holding Tank Capacity
?
Headroom
?
Cabins
?

Calculations

Hull Speed
?

Hull Speed

The theoretical maximum speed that a displacement hull can move efficiently through the water is determined by it's waterline length and displacement. It may be unable to reach this speed if the boat is underpowered or heavily loaded, though it may exceed this speed given enough power. Read more.

Formula

Classic hull speed formula:

Hull Speed = 1.34 x √LWL

A more accurate formula devised by Dave Gerr in The Propeller Handbook replaces the Speed/Length ratio constant of 1.34 with a calculation based on the Displacement/Length ratio.

Max Speed/Length ratio = 8.26 ÷ Displacement/Length ratio.311
Hull Speed = Max Speed/Length ratio x √LWL

?
Classic formula: ?
Sail Area/Displacement
70.9
>20: high performance

Sail Area / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the power of the sails relative to the weight of the boat. The higher the number, the higher the performance, but the harder the boat will be to handle. This ratio is a "non-dimensional" value that facilitates comparisons between boats of different types and sizes. Read more.

Formula

SA/D = SA ÷ (D ÷ 64)2/3

  • SA: Sail area in square feet, derived by adding the mainsail area to 100% of the foretriangle area (the lateral area above the deck between the mast and the forestay).
  • D: Displacement in pounds.
70.86
<16: under powered
16-20: good performance
>20: high performance
Ballast/Displacement
?

Ballast / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the stability of a boat's hull that suggests how well a monohull will stand up to its sails. The ballast displacement ratio indicates how much of the weight of a boat is placed for maximum stability against capsizing and is an indicator of stiffness and resistance to capsize.

Formula

Ballast / Displacement * 100

?
<40: less stiff, less powerful
>40: stiffer, more powerful
Displacement/Length
?

Displacement / Length Ratio

A measure of the weight of the boat relative to it's length at the waterline. The higher a boat’s D/L ratio, the more easily it will carry a load and the more comfortable its motion will be. The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed or beyond. Read more.

Formula

D/L = (D ÷ 2240) ÷ (0.01 x LWL)³

  • D: Displacement of the boat in pounds.
  • LWL: Waterline length in feet
?
<100: ultralight
100-200: light
200-300: moderate
300-400: heavy
>400: very heavy
Comfort Ratio
?

Comfort Ratio

This ratio assess how quickly and abruptly a boat’s hull reacts to waves in a significant seaway, these being the elements of a boat’s motion most likely to cause seasickness. Read more.

Formula

Comfort ratio = D ÷ (.65 x (.7 LWL + .3 LOA) x Beam1.33)

  • D: Displacement of the boat in pounds
  • LWL: Waterline length in feet
  • LOA: Length overall in feet
  • Beam: Width of boat at the widest point in feet
?
<20: lightweight racing boat
20-30: coastal cruiser
30-40: moderate bluewater cruising boat
40-50: heavy bluewater boat
>50: extremely heavy bluewater boat
Capsize Screening
4.4
>2.0: better suited for coastal cruising

Capsize Screening Formula

This formula attempts to indicate whether a given boat might be too wide and light to readily right itself after being overturned in extreme conditions. Read more.

Formula

CSV = Beam ÷ ³√(D / 64)

  • Beam: Width of boat at the widest point in feet
  • D: Displacement of the boat in pounds
4.35
<2: better suited for ocean passages
>2: better suited for coastal cruising

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