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1962 Islander price drop Islander 44 price drop

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Expired
$23,995 USD

Seller's Description

Talisman 44 is a sailing beauty. Her hull was laid in 1958 and was built by owner Dr. Bob Williams and his very close friend Herald E. Graham. Having solved their basic problem with the development of CUBEX, the next step was to find the right marine architect. Mr. C. William Lapworth was finally chosen because of his outstanding record of winning boats and the fine sailing characteristics of all his designs. Talisman was to be no exception. Talisman was launched in 1962 and was active in all Southern California races, including the San Diego to Catalina Race of 1962. She completed the Trans Pac LA Hawaii in 1965. Her race had just begun as Talisman in 1966 and completed the San Diego to Mazatlan Race. In 1973, 1974, and 1975 she completed the 650-mile Guadalupe Island Race and in addition sailed in 23 Newport to Ensenada Races. She retired from active racing in 1985. LOA 43 ft 9 in Beam 11 ft 6 in LWL 32 ft 0 in Displacement 21000 lbs Ballast 8000 lbs Engine 1 Engine Brand Perkins Year Built 2008 Engine Model 4 Cylinder Engine Type Inboard Engine/Fuel Type Diesel Engine Hours 254 Propeller 3 blade propeller Fresh Water Tanks Plastic (70 Gallons) Fuel Tanks Aluminum (80 Gallons) Holding Tanks Plastic (30 Gallons) Number of single berths 4 Number of double berths 1 Number of cabins 3 Number of heads 1 Rig Dimensions I - ?49.00 / 14.94m P - 43.42 / 13.24m J - 17.20 / 5.24m E - 19.20 / 5.85m Sail Area (fore triangle) - 421.40 sq. ft. / 39.15 sq. m. Sail Area (main) - 416.83 sq. ft. / 38.72 sq. m. Total Sail Area - 838.23 sq. ft. / 77.87 sq. m. Sail Area to Displacement - 16.89 Mast Head to Waterline - 54.00 / 16.46m

Equipment: Talisman 44 is a sailing beauty. Her hull was laid in 1958 and was built by owner Dr. Bob Williams and his very close friend Herald E. Graham. Having solved their basic problem with the development of CUBEX, the next step was to find the right marine architect. Mr. C. William Lapworth was finally chosen because of his outstanding record of winning boats and the fine sailing characteristics of all his designs. Talisman was to be no exception. Talisman was launched in 1962 and was active in all Southern California races, including the San Diego to Catalina Race of 1962. She completed the Trans Pac LA Hawaii in 1965. Her race had just begun as Talisman in 1966 and completed the San Diego to Mazatlan Race. In 1973, 1974, and 1975 she completed the 650-mile Guadalupe Island Race and in addition sailed in 23 Newport to Ensenada Races. She retired from active racing in 1985. LOA 43 ft 9 in Beam 11 ft 6 in LWL 32 ft 0 in Displacement 21000 lbs Ballast 8000 lbs Engine 1 Engine Brand Perkins Year Built 2008 Engine Model 4 Cylinder Engine Type Inboard Engine/Fuel Type Diesel Engine Hours 254 Propeller 3 blade propeller Fresh Water Tanks Plastic (70 Gallons) Fuel Tanks Aluminum (80 Gallons) Holding Tanks Plastic (30 Gallons) Number of single berths 4 Number of double berths 1 Number of cabins 3 Number of heads 1 Rig Dimensions I - ?49.00 / 14.94m P - 43.42 / 13.24m J - 17.20 / 5.24m E - 19.20 / 5.85m Sail Area (fore triangle) - 421.40 sq. ft. / 39.15 sq. m. Sail Area (main) - 416.83 sq. ft. / 38.72 sq. m. Total Sail Area - 838.23 sq. ft. / 77.87 sq. m. Sail Area to Displacement - 16.89 Mast Head to Waterline - 54.00 / 16.46m Accommodations V-berth master stateroom sleeps two (2) Convertible settees and a quarterberth aft to starboard, sleep an additional 3-4? Beautifully finished teak interior Ample storage throughout Upholstery and cushions are all in good condition March 2012- Rebuild REBUILT 4 CYLINDER PERKIN DIESEL 2008 ALL NEW ELECTRICAL SYSTEM NEW STARTER NEW BILGE PUMPS ALL NEW THRU HULLS ALL NEW CUSHIONS INSIDE AND OUT ALL NEW STANDING RIGGING ALL NEW LIFE LINES NEW STERN PULPIT NEW PLUMBING FOR HEAD AND GALLEY NEW COUNTER TOPS 2014 ALL NEW PAINT ON THE HULL INCLUDING MAST AND BOOM NEW VENT FANS ALL NEW ROPE HALYARDS ALL NEW TACKLE AND PULLEYS NEW BATTERY CHARGER ALL NEW ELECTRICAL PANEL NEW MAIN SAIL ULLMAN NEW LAZY JACK SYSTEM NEW ALTERNATOR BOTTOM PAINTED (1/2011) NEW COVERS FOR HATCH AND COMPANIONWAY 2023 BATTERIES REPLACED (2022) NEW CANVAS 2023

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Specs

Designer
C. William Lapworth
Builder
Islander / Tradewind Yachts
Associations
?
# Built
10
Hull
Monohull
Keel
Fin
Rudder
Spade
Construction
FG

Dimensions

Length Overall
43 11 / 13.4 m
Waterline Length
32 6 / 9.9 m
Beam
12 0 / 3.7 m
Draft
6 0 / 1.8 m
Displacement
22,500 lb / 10,206 kg
Ballast
8,000 lb / 3,629 kg

Rig and Sails

Type
Sloop
Reported Sail Area
813′² / 75.5 m²
Total Sail Area
838′² / 77.9 m²
Mainsail
Sail Area
417′² / 38.7 m²
P
43 4 / 13.2 m
E
19 2 / 5.9 m
Air Draft
54 0 / 16.5 m
Foresail
Sail Area
421′² / 39.2 m²
I
49 0 / 14.9 m
J
17 2 / 5.2 m
Forestay Length
51 11 / 15.8 m

Auxilary Power

Make
Universal
Model
Unimite
HP
72
Fuel Type
Diesel
Fuel Capacity
60 gal / 227 l
Engine Hours
?

Accomodations

Water Capacity
60 gal / 227 l
Holding Tank Capacity
?
Headroom
?
Cabins
2

Calculations

Hull Speed
8.1 kn
Classic: 7.64 kn

Hull Speed

The theoretical maximum speed that a displacement hull can move efficiently through the water is determined by it's waterline length and displacement. It may be unable to reach this speed if the boat is underpowered or heavily loaded, though it may exceed this speed given enough power. Read more.

Formula

Classic hull speed formula:

Hull Speed = 1.34 x √LWL

A more accurate formula devised by Dave Gerr in The Propeller Handbook replaces the Speed/Length ratio constant of 1.34 with a calculation based on the Displacement/Length ratio.

Max Speed/Length ratio = 8.26 ÷ Displacement/Length ratio.311
Hull Speed = Max Speed/Length ratio x √LWL

8.06 knots
Classic formula: 7.64 knots
Sail Area/Displacement
16.3
16-20: good performance

Sail Area / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the power of the sails relative to the weight of the boat. The higher the number, the higher the performance, but the harder the boat will be to handle. This ratio is a "non-dimensional" value that facilitates comparisons between boats of different types and sizes. Read more.

Formula

SA/D = SA ÷ (D ÷ 64)2/3

  • SA: Sail area in square feet, derived by adding the mainsail area to 100% of the foretriangle area (the lateral area above the deck between the mast and the forestay).
  • D: Displacement in pounds.
16.32
<16: under powered
16-20: good performance
>20: high performance
Ballast/Displacement
35.6
<40: less stiff, less powerful

Ballast / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the stability of a boat's hull that suggests how well a monohull will stand up to its sails. The ballast displacement ratio indicates how much of the weight of a boat is placed for maximum stability against capsizing and is an indicator of stiffness and resistance to capsize.

Formula

Ballast / Displacement * 100

35.56
<40: less stiff, less powerful
>40: stiffer, more powerful
Displacement/Length
292.3
275-350: heavy

Displacement / Length Ratio

A measure of the weight of the boat relative to it's length at the waterline. The higher a boat’s D/L ratio, the more easily it will carry a load and the more comfortable its motion will be. The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed or beyond. Read more.

Formula

D/L = (D ÷ 2240) ÷ (0.01 x LWL)³

  • D: Displacement of the boat in pounds.
  • LWL: Waterline length in feet
292.26
<100: ultralight
100-200: light
200-300: moderate
300-400: heavy
>400: very heavy
Comfort Ratio
39.5
30-40: moderate bluewater cruising boat

Comfort Ratio

This ratio assess how quickly and abruptly a boat’s hull reacts to waves in a significant seaway, these being the elements of a boat’s motion most likely to cause seasickness. Read more.

Formula

Comfort ratio = D ÷ (.65 x (.7 LWL + .3 LOA) x Beam1.33)

  • D: Displacement of the boat in pounds
  • LWL: Waterline length in feet
  • LOA: Length overall in feet
  • Beam: Width of boat at the widest point in feet
39.48
<20: lightweight racing boat
20-30: coastal cruiser
30-40: moderate bluewater cruising boat
40-50: heavy bluewater boat
>50: extremely heavy bluewater boat
Capsize Screening
1.6
<2.0: better suited for ocean passages

Capsize Screening Formula

This formula attempts to indicate whether a given boat might be too wide and light to readily right itself after being overturned in extreme conditions. Read more.

Formula

CSV = Beam ÷ ³√(D / 64)

  • Beam: Width of boat at the widest point in feet
  • D: Displacement of the boat in pounds
1.56
<2: better suited for ocean passages
>2: better suited for coastal cruising

Notes

Hull mold for LAPWORTH 44 purchased by Islander (1965-original builder unknown) and name changed to ISLANDER 44. (The designer, Bill Lapworth, has said that his involvement with this boat ended here.) After purchasing, Islander reconfigured hull to a long keel. Some tooling later went to Yachtcraft which sold them principly as kits. These were known as the YACHTCRAFT 44, OR 41 (with a chopped stern - also sometimes called ISLANDER 41*).
Deck, coach roof profile and other details vary between versions. (deck mold may have been adapted from an another Islander model)
(*There are actually 2 different boats from Islander/Wayfarer called the ISLANDER 41. The other is designed by Gurney and both are rare.)
(See ISLANDER 41.)

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